Sen. Adam Schiff on AI regulation, politics, and power
The Verge's Nilay Patel interviews US Senator Adam Schiff on the Decoder podcast about AI oversight, political corruption, and social media lessons.

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- US Senator Adam Schiff discusses AI regulation and political corruption on Decoder
- Schiff notes Congress missed its chance on social media and must act on AI
- The interview covers Donald Trump administration controversies and executive actions
- The Supreme Court's Loper Bright ruling creates new hurdles for agency regulations
The Verge Editor-in-Chief Nilay Patel sat down with US Senator Adam Schiff, a Democrat from California, on the Decoder podcast to discuss the complex intersection of technology policy, political corruption, and the urgent need for AI oversight.
During the conversation, Schiff addressed the chaotic political climate in Washington, pointing to administration controversies such as campaign ads funded by taxpayer dollars, press restrictions at the White House and Air Force One, and vanity projects justified under national security pretexts.

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The discussion also touched upon recent events where prominent tech executives visited the White House to sign a nonbinding pact agreeing to evaluate their own AI systems safely, raising questions about whether voluntary measures are sufficient.
Congress's failure to regulate social media effectively in its early stages serves as a cautionary tale for policymakers tackling artificial intelligence today. However, the legal landscape has shifted dramatically, particularly with the judicial changes affecting federal agency authority.
A key legal hurdle highlighted in the episode is the Supreme Court's Loper Bright ruling, which overturned the long-standing Chevron deference. This means courts no longer automatically defer to agency expertise when laws are vague, potentially entangling any new AI regulatory framework in prolonged litigation.
"I think we have seen things take place in the last couple of years in particular that we've never seen before. There's sadly rampant corruption within the administration."
Adam Schiff
Source: The Verge
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